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Big Brother is coming ...

Bernie

Posting Guru
... and I don't mean a stupid TV programme ... :(

A giant database of people's personal details could be created at Whitehall under government plans which ministers say will help improve public services.

Tony Blair is expected to unveil the proposal in Downing Street on Monday.

Full story at BBC News Online.
 
Why do I just feel uneasy on the one hand, on the other, certain it's going to cost about half the defence budget to impliment and won't work as advertised when it is.

Sceptical and cynical? Moi?

Roger.
 
Why do I just feel uneasy on the one hand, on the other, certain it's going to cost about half the defence budget to impliment and won't work as advertised when it is.

Sceptical and cynical? Moi?

Roger.

I've just finished reading the traveler, By John Twelve Hawks see this link for a description of the book/author.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2005-06-27-traveler_x.htm

I strongly recommend this book to anyone who is worried about state involvement in our lives. or anyone who thinks "if we have nothing to hide we have nothing to worry about"
 
Our present useless Government are in the habit of employing some dodgy people. Don't think our data would remain personal for very long. What another waste of money!

Angela
 
I would not be at all suprised if they've had all our details for year. They're not difficult to get hold of.

Now they just want to know what we feel about it. and what better way by saying "oh, we're thinking about catalogueing you all.

Conspiracy theorists of the world unite!!!!
 
This plan is only about amalgamating all the details currently held on goodness knows how many databases onto one. Now in the normal course of things this would make sense, it would save heaps of money and lots of time. However I would not trust this goverment with a box of dead matches, let alone a population database. Apart from what they would use it for, there is the cost of doing it. Bear in mind the Electronic Patient Record for the NHS is costing £20 billion and is not going to achieve all it was meant to.

This goverment's record on IT projects is appalling, Defra paid a company to set up a system to pay out the farm subsidies cost £19 million, it went tits up and the EU fined Defra £300 million, net result things like the British Waterways have had thier budget cut by £50 million over the next few years to pay for it and how did they put it right.........they paid the original company another £16 million to put thier own mistakes right.:eek:
 
I've just finished reading the traveler, By John Twelve Hawks see this link for a description of the book/author.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2005-06-27-traveler_x.htm

I strongly recommend this book to anyone who is worried about state involvement in our lives. or anyone who thinks "if we have nothing to hide we have nothing to worry about"
Looks interesting, must read it sometime!
I've just raed 1984 and Brave New world, frightening to read them now, as Big brother is here already, history rewriting is going on now, the two classes are three now (politicians, the rich, and the proles) (though the way politicians are going on theer is often little difference between them and the rich).
Reading them I got the feeling all the time that 'this is now'
 
I remember reading 1984 for my A level's some years ago....

At the time we all thought its a bit like now, there were things that looked similar...

Now I think... er... now is Georges view of 1984 !

I mean really, we are all controlled by a little box ! yep TV and PC...

anyway.. I think its a bad idea to have all our data in one place, now all that has to happen is one security breach and thats it... we are cloned on the system and some shady criminal out fit use my details for their gain and I end up paying the price for it !
 
I remember reading 1984 for my A level's some years ago....

At the time we all thought its a bit like now, there were things that looked similar...

Now I think... er... now is Georges view of 1984 !

I mean really, we are all controlled by a little box ! yep TV and PC...

anyway.. I think its a bad idea to have all our data in one place, now all that has to happen is one security breach and thats it... we are cloned on the system and some shady criminal out fit use my details for their gain and I end up paying the price for it !

I can assure you there are far easier ways of cloning your ID than trying to gain access to secure data, most ID theft is the result of low tech methods, rather than any computer hacking.

http://www.identity-theft.org.uk/index.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/1395109.stm

But yes 1984 is here and now.
 
...and you all think that the contents of the aforementioned giant database do not already exist already? You've all seen that advert on telly about the DVLA and computers? Well don't think they're the only Government department up to that kind of stuff...
 
... and I don't mean a stupid TV programme ... :(

A giant database of people's personal details could be created at Whitehall under government plans which ministers say will help improve public services.

Tony Blair is expected to unveil the proposal in Downing Street on Monday.

Full story at BBC News Online.
You don't think MI5 already have this, then? All that'll change is the Police, NHS and benefits offices being able to access it. I think it's a good thing - it should help cut down on fraud and crime.
 
When a minister says

Plans to make it easier for government departments to share information on people are not a move towards a "Big Brother" state, a minister has said.

Pensions Secretary John Hutton told BBC Radio 4's Today programme the proposals were a "routine part of the process of engaging with the public services".

You know darn well the opposite applies
 
The phrase that is the lifeblood of any dictatorship:
"If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about."
I'm afraid this is another turn of the rachet towards total government control over us all. Why are we allowing them to do this?

Keith Hart
 
I'm afraid this is another turn of the rachet towards total government control over us all. Why are we allowing them to do this?

Because too many people just aren't bothered as long as they get their weekly soaps and "footie" etc. :(
 
Because too many people just aren't bothered as long as they get their weekly soaps and "footie" etc. :(

Most people are doing quite well, even those on benefits!, think everything is fine,so are happy with what the govt is doing, don't question the 'facts' that are put out, and aren't bothered about what is going on behind the scenes.
When that changes (and much of the good times are cos of a bouyant european and american economy, and not because of Gordon Brown)(currently interest rates going up fast, massive amounts of debt amy accelerate the change) and they feel the pinch, they will soon be more interested in what is going on, but sadly it may be too late, and there may be many years of pain to pay for the good times some have been having.
 
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