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Bleeding Brakes.....~~~!!

Disgoshere

Disgoshere

In Fourth Gear
Happy New Year all.Been a long time since being on the forum.Mainly because we have moved to the west country !.
Right.
1/.Took of Right front wheel to shim the upper swivel pin.
2/.Disconnected the right brake hose at the bracket at the top of the caliper.
3/.Changed and shimmed the swivel pin.
4/.Reconnected the brake hose.
Then over to the other side.(left)
1/.this time the brake line was disconnected from the caliper union not the bracket at the top of the caliper.
2/.Changed the pin & shimmed it.
3/.Reconnected the brake line to the caliper.

Now the bleeding !.

All I am getting from the front two calipers is a litle bit of air and a dribble of fluid.

I have tried the "One Man" bleed method using a kit...No joy:sadagain:

Also the two man (or should I say "Landy Man & Landy women) method with the end of a piece of clear pipe and then the traditional repitition !.

Landy Women is "Suzi 2's" driver and my Wifey !.Ohhh woe is me !

Same thing Happens...Just a couple of bubbles in the jar then a dribble of fluid.

The brake pedal appears to have say for ttwo pushes a tiny bit of resistance then nothing.:eek:

Strange to say if you just open up the rear drum brake nipples the fluid flies out ??!!/

I'm open to suggestions.

Is it finger trouble ????

Or has something else happened that would cause these symtoms.

Thing is I still had brakes after I had done the Right swivel pin and reconnected the caliper.:eek:

I guess that's the annoying thing.

This is the first time the brakes have stumped me.Normally bleeding brakes is a doddle.

I did forget to loosen the reservoir cap and ohhhh yes...numpty here also forgot to keep (during two man method) initially to keep the pipe hose in the fluid in the jar.

After that however no matter which method was used to bleed the brakes I am going nowhere fast.....Help !

All help / suggestions welcome

Chris


So whatever happened happened after
 
Initial thought is that it sounds like the hydraulics on the brake pedal have gone. Can't be much more help than that, I'm afraid.

In my case it was the girlfriend pushing the wrong pedal. 15 minutes of head scratching with no brake fluid coming through at all, then she realised she'd been pressing the clutch pedal.

And I let her drive the Landy sometimes!
 
timm said:
Initial thought is that it sounds like the hydraulics on the brake pedal have gone. Can't be much more help than that, I'm afraid.

In my case it was the girlfriend pushing the wrong pedal. 15 minutes of head scratching with no brake fluid coming through at all, then she realised she'd been pressing the clutch pedal.

And I let her drive the Landy sometimes!
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Thats almost as bad as me mum. Once I had to leave my beloved jag on her drive over the weekend. I left the keys so she could move it if need be.. She then asked which was the brake.

She owns an automatic and has driven it daily for 4 yours, jags an auto and she got confused :O

Worst bit was she got over eager and laid a number 11 up the driveway in revers... How she missed the house im not sure!
 
One of the "new" problems that seems to have arisen with the new metals is the brake and clutch cylinders developing a shoulder where the rubbers end up each time when you use the brakes.

Now this seems to be OK until you press the pedal past that shoulder. The rubbers knacker up.
Yep it happened to me and I used an Eezi-Bleed.

Have you actually tried an Eezi-Bleed ?? If not I suggest you try one.

Should you have to buy a new master cylinder try www.land-rover-parts-shop-.com.
 
Morning !,

Right....Here's what's happened.

Discussed the problem with my lod...yes "Old Man" (can I say that ?...or is that harassment ...Never mind.

He's still my old man,cheif engineer and my mentor when tinkering with his cars.

He hit the nail on the head straight away.

If the hydraulic system becomes "Depressurised " for some reason and your Master cylinder has never been serviced since day one and very old...like my old man !...The "V" seals inside can collapse.

Yes ...he's right the front most "V" seal inside the master cylinder has collapsed.:D

Choices...renew the seals with a servicing kit...or replace the unit with a brand new shiney master cylinder for £70.00.

I have decided on the second option...

Cheers !

Chris:)
 
mmgemini said:
Have you actually tried an Eezi-Bleed ?? If not I suggest you try one.
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I've used an eezi bleed before on other cars and found them really good. Following advice on here I tried one on the Landy but lowered the pressure down to 10psi (usually use about 30). Couldn't get any fluid through the nsr cylinder. Upped the pressure to about 15 but still no joy. In the end, I used the special female eezi bleed who provides me with coffee and did it the traditional way.
 
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