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Costs of Iraq and Afghanistan operations

graham

Big Landy Fan
Some time ago in a thread on here I said i had written to my MP demanding to know how much the war in Afganistan and Iraq has cost.


Finaly got an answer from Adam Ingram MP Under-Secretary of State.
I have to type this out as my scanner is not working, thought you might be interested in where all our tax money is going.

The cost are net additional costs it has incurred, the cost that the department would have incurred regardless of the operation taking place, such as wages and salaries, are not included. Savings on activities that have not occurred because of the operation- training exercises for example- are taken into account in arriving at the net figures.

2002/03 Operations in Iraq £629M
Expenditure on Capital Equipment £218M
Total £847M

2003/04

Operations in Iraq £1,052M
Ex on Cap Equip 260M
Total £1,311M

2004/05

Operations in Iraq £747M
Ex on Cap Equip 163M
Total £910M

2005/06

Operations in Iraq £798M
Ex on Cap Equip 160M
Total £958M

Grand Total £4,026M

Current estimate for 2006/07 in the region of £860M



Afghanistan Operations 2001/02 £187M
Ex on Cap Equip 34M
Total £221M

2002/03

Afghanistan Operations £236M
Ex on Cap Equip 75M
Total £311M

2003/04

Operations in Afghanistan £36M
Ex on Cap Equip 10M
Total £46M

2004/05
Op in Afghanistan £48M
Ex on Cap Equip 9M
Total £67M

2005/06

Op in Afghanistan £148M
Ex on Cap Equp 52M
Total £199M

Grand Total £844M

Estimated costs for 2006/07 in the region of £540M
 
Sounds quite cheap actually for a conflict. :eek: For example, it costs a few million to just keep combat fighters running and in the air.
 
And my new desert boots are very nice, thank-you. :D

There's an election soon surely?

Just out of curiousity, why did you "demand" to know? You didn't think if you found them disagreeble that it'd actually stop anything did you?
 
There's an election soon surely?

Not soon enough! Besides, having our civil liberties curtailed, our privacy invaded, our wallets raped, and being misled, lied to, not to mention dissolving into the Federal Europe, there's no real reason to vote this goverment out, is there?
 
Has anyone done theoretical (sp?) studies to find out if the Iraq & Afghani people would have viewed us in a more favourable light if we had given the money to the people instead of using it to blow up their countries?
 
Hmmm, all areas of specialised sponsorship the Americans have provided around the world for years:D

Bush senior didn't overthrow Saddam first time around because he didn't have a plan or a replacement. Bush junior didn't either but, what the hell, we're 'merica, we'll wup them.
 
As this govenment is so cash grabbing i wanted to know how much is being used to fund the operations, bet the green tax came at the right time for them no wonder they love tree huggers.
 
As this govenment is so cash grabbing i wanted to know how much is being used to fund the operations, bet the green tax came at the right time for them no wonder they love tree huggers.
Isn't the war designed to make more people dispise the British & Americans etc. Thus turning us into the ememy instead of a liberator of oppressed people suffering under their own non elected governments/rulers.
Does your comment mean that the intention was to increase insecurity in where our fuel supplies were going to come from simply so new green policy's could be brought to the forefront of government legislation as an encouragement for the general public to adopt as an alternative to trading with foriegn states.
 
Has anyone done theoretical (sp?) studies to find out if the Iraq & Afghani people would have viewed us in a more favourable light if we had given the money to the people instead of using it to blow up their countries?
They'd use that money to finance ministerial luxuries, armament and the Afghan opium trade. A lot would invariably be spent on anti-western terrorism too.

The point is not the cost of the operations, but the cost of doing nothing. Iraq has been badly mishandled, but Afghanistan certainly required intervention. If we don't do this op, well be indirectly supporting terrorism. Giving them money would be direct support of the Taleban, drugs trade and terrorism.

The middle east will always hate the west, regardless of what we do, as long as Islaam tells them to hate the Western Infidel. They should get no help from us - it's a waste of our resources and treasonous to aid the enemy.
 
If the same amount of money had been spent on better anti drug enforcement by removing the market it might have influenced the source.
Are there some comparitive costs, like if the money hadn't been wasted how much could car tax have been reduced.
I note the standing costs were removed. This isn't entirely fair as if the government didn't keep wanting to push their weight around they wouldn't need to keep the forces anyway.
 
They'd use that money to finance ministerial luxuries, armament and the Afghan opium trade. A lot would invariably be spent on anti-western terrorism too.

The point is not the cost of the operations, but the cost of doing nothing. Iraq has been badly mishandled, but Afghanistan certainly required intervention. If we don't do this op, well be indirectly supporting terrorism. Giving them money would be direct support of the Taleban, drugs trade and terrorism.

The middle east will always hate the west, regardless of what we do, as long as Islaam tells them to hate the Western Infidel. They should get no help from us - it's a waste of our resources and treasonous to aid the enemy.
Sorry.. I was just considering the possibilities of us not calling many arab states our enemy & the peoples in those countries considering us in the same light.
This would obviously be helped by incentives and instead of us liberating by force, the poorer oppressed majority might question how come the rich counties were such nasty bar stewards who deserve to die if they used their wealth to help the poor prosper instead of keep them forever beholding to us by making them pay (with interest) for their freedom as yet unseen.
War perpetuates resentment would you not agree.
 
So what incentives are they as an alternative to liberating by force?
Although Afghanistan has an enthusiastic population, they ain't the most organised people in the world and simply don't have the skill, equipment or training to take on the problem.
And I'm not sure it breeds resent from the wholenation, more a small pocket of radicals within that population who don't regard themselves as any particular nationality when it comes to fighting for their beliefs.
Believe me a lot of "them" captured in Afghanistan have come from a country just slightly further South, but head North to the more permissive environment of the 'Stan for them to do what they choose to do.

And Baz, the idea of the UK "not needing" it's armed forces if we weren't in Iraq and Afg is utter nonsense. You say the moneywould be better spent on anti-drug enforcement. What do you think is a very large part of current ops way out East? Erradicating said drugs at source.
 
Don't I just wish I had an answer to that Bob. Asking any two opposites to not fight is usually pretty similar to asking for a smack in the mouth :(
which somewhat defeats the object of seeking peace.

I did once try running the practicalities of such through my head.
IE: 1 person holds a huge wad of money & then divides it by the amount of ppl in a country. 1st have to sub divide into areas.. cities, towns villages. Decide who is trustworthy to not keep more for themselves which would involve policing them. Arrange money to be stored safely.. more risk, pay more ppl higher rates due to the danger they face.
Think... employ people, organise them to do this job of sharing themselves. Create banks, schools, hospitals, supply materials & trades to produce even a rudamentary bank with some security. Roads & infrastructor to get stuff from A to B.
All the time this would create the well off in the beginning & the poorer still waiting. The ones with the money are in a stronger position have bargaining power & dominate... grow stronger.
It's going to be against most individuals nature to wait their turn if they are without & terribly likely that those who have will not want to give any of it up.

No... it's not workable in practice. I know that, I just wish it weren't like that but nothing I can do.
At least those who go to war have jobs to do, a sense of purpose, trained to fight for Queen & fellow countrymen in order to protect their own. Prepared to put their lives at risk in the process & in some cases loosing them. Having to make compromises to their own beliefs and values.
& for what... so I can dream. The price is indeed high.
 
Think... employ people, organise them to do this job of sharing themselves. Create banks, schools, hospitals, supply materials & trades to produce even a rudamentary bank with some security. Roads & infrastructor to get stuff from A to B.

That's what we're trying to do.
 
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