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Defender price question.

billh

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I was chatting to a mate in the pub last night and he mentioned he'd like a defender. But he only has £2k and he wants a 90 van. Is this realistic or are 90s at that money going to be a bit ropey?
 
They have come down recently, I've seen NA diesels and TDs locally for under a grand with MOT, but were likely very tat. I think at £2k he'll be in the tatty bracket and unlikely to get a TDI. If i was him and I had to have one, I'd spend £1500 and keep £500 in a jar for the inevitables. At £2k he'll still need an Inevitables fund but there won't be anything in it.
 
You won't get a Defender for £2k. A 90 with a NA or TD unit is not a Defender even though people tend to refer to them as such. My advice would be to save up a bit more until you've got £3k+ to spend if you want even a tatty Tdi. You could get a nice petrol 90 for £2k, but not everyone likes the engine or the mpg you'd get. A TD is likely to be well ropey and a NA pretty well used, although more likely to be reliable due to being less stressed than the turbo unit.
 
Look around, they are out there you just need to find them.
I got my last 90 TDI hard top K-reg iirc for £2k with nearly full MOT.
Ran perfectly, not a spot of rust on the chassis and only fairly minor stuff elsewhere on the bodywork. Bulkhead corners werent fantastic but didnt leak.
 
I've a similar but different question, if I may ask it.
What's the insurance payout on a 2.5 n/a.. it's an old 110.
I'd like to ask the insurance company but they'll think it an odd request.
 
ive a 1990 TD 110 hard top and its about £250 from the NFU and thats with 5 years no clams and for business use, hope this is of use
 
sorry alice i mis understood your question, they will probably pay out trade value which will be a couple of hundred quid unfortunatly
 
That's what I thought. We're only Third party fire & theft atm, never bothered with fully comp as I didn't expect to ever get either what a vehicle had had spent on it or enough to buy a modern equivillant.
Ours has just spent a wk up the road, being noticed by more people.
I know it's fairly knackered but that wouldn't stop someone if they wanted to strip it for parts. It'll feel worse if we put new tyres on & spend out on getting it to run better as none of that will be taken into account should it get pinched.
If I asked NFU to increase it's payout value, go fully comp or whatever it takes (& I don't know as that makes a difference anyway) it would look like fraud if it were then nicked.
Just have to trust in human kindness I guess, no point worrying about what 'might' happen.
 
Being Fully Comp or TPFT won't make any differnce to the pay out. Also you may want to consider that "theft" also includes attempted theft... like nicking the wheels.

I've found that in my circumstances TPFT is rarely much cheaper than Fully Comp. The big advantage of fully comp is that you can get your car repaired straight away after an accident and let the insurance company deal with the claim.

back on topic.. I've seen some really nice Ninety (not 90) NA Diesels for under £2K.. but like Rob says, keep backa few quid for things like UJs / tyres / brakes.
 
It is a bit of a mockery to having insurance isn't it. I thought fully comp might at least cover cost of additional things in the Landy.
I'll take my sheepskin out then as I paid £40 for it :) ...it collects rain anyway.
Security measures seem a waste of time & money as thieves are more than competant at their chosen proffesion.
Padlock on the fuel cap just stops the locals from pouring sugar in the tank but fuel could still be syphoned via the drain plug.
Locking nuts cost us £25 are rusting horribly & wheels can easily be removed with some kind of heavy duty molegrips.
Good job I don't keep a full set of tools in it, as they'd cost more than the bookprice payout.
Then again it's always a pain when it breaks down locally as the RAC doesn't cover us in a 3 mile radius from home.
I guess we have to balance the advantages against cost & ride the waves when they happen.
 
Hi Alice. Thanks. Yeah, I'm pleased with the purchase.

Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Anyhow, its not what its worth, its what you do with it that counts..
:)
 
Hi Alice. Thanks. Yeah, I'm pleased with the purchase.

Things are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. Anyhow, its not what its worth, its what you do with it that counts..
:)
Oh so true :)
It's worth loads in terms of associated memories, time spent either with others or enhancing peace.
I'll try not to dwell on a strippers value via e-bay.
I can't quite say it's just a vehicle for getting from A to B as much of the time we go via C.
 
Alice, if you're worried about a potential payout being somewhat wide of the mark, ask if your insurer will accept an agreed valuation. Rather than going by book value which is always hopeless with an enthusiast vehicle, you go to an agreed independent body (usually a specialist dealer) who put a realistic value on the vehicle. Bare in mind that this is the value of your vehicle, not the cost of replacing it whatever is available at the time. At least going this route should cover you for things like tyres and any accessories (which of course you've declared to your insurer as modifications) which a specialist will realise make your vehicle more valuable.

As for your friend that wants a 90, for 2K the options I think would be a really good series SWB or a fairly tatty Ninety or a really tatty Defender 90 (Tdi) unless a 'too-good-to-be-true' bargain pops up. If a series is out of the question and it has to be coils, the maybe a Disco or Classic Rangey could be the answer, but 2K for something Land Rover shaped might be asking for trouble, especially for someone who is not used to the downsides of Landy ownership.
 
My modifications cannot be taken seriously, they involve sticky tape & soft furnishings :D The only bit of 'bling' mine has are the extra lead weights on my old hubs.
Shame that insurance wouldn't give us what we paid for originally even if it doesn't cover the cost of a suitable replacement at todays prices.
When owning a vehicle becomes more expensive than taxi's then it'll be time to quit.
 
My modifications cannot be taken seriously, they involve sticky tape & soft furnishings :D The only bit of 'bling' mine has are the extra lead weights on my old hubs.
Shame that insurance wouldn't give us what we paid for originally even if it doesn't cover the cost of a suitable replacement at todays prices.
When owning a vehicle becomes more expensive than taxi's then it'll be time to quit.
Try a different insurer. I went with Highway insurance through Adrian Flux, and no questions asked they agreed to a value of £4k should mine get pinched or written off, all they needed was 6 photos of it. And fully comp cover was just £215, and thats with 0 years NCD, and all mods declared. NFU wanted £350!
 
Thanks for the input guys, very useful. He's set on a 90/Defender/Series SWB so I'll pass on your thoughts.

Sorry about the Defender/90 mess up.:eek:

:cheers:
 
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