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Dispatches

Alice

Alice

Big Landy Fan
I thought last nights Dispatches program was a pretty good indication of what it is like for the most part for troops placed in what is essentially a war zone. Obviously much is still not shown, long pauses & knowing looks acted in place of words at times and it would not benefit most to view the more extremes that have to be endured.

I wonder how servicemen past and present view the same program. For them I imagine it is quite different.
 
Presactly... In the olden days when our troops had to enter countries with guns it was called 'going to' or declaring war on country being visited. It almost seems like you lot are being shipped out on 'tactical manouvers'.
As the 'War on Irac' fizzled into 'dealing with 'insurgence' (ffs what does that mean anyway.. ppl are still being killed) It almost seems to me as if we're supposed to pretend nothing much is happening. I bet those who are having to deal with the reality don't have much time for all the political debates that take place on the legalities of various UN resolutions.
 
What political debate? Emperor Blair isn't debating anything.

The vain idiot wanted to leave a legacy. I think he has achieved his goal.
 
Gripper said:
What political debate? Emperor Blair isn't debating anything.

The vain idiot wanted to leave a legacy. I think he has achieved his goal.
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they were calling him 'president blair' yesterday morning on the news when they reported on him not giving up his long haul holiday flight to save the enviroment.
the mans a dick.
but then again , he is nothing more than a 'puppet/actor'.
no one man can make all the decisions needed to run a country.
 
No no no, one man can. He is called a dictator. But we don't believe in those:D We would rather impose democracy on the world. Trouble is, much of the world does not want, or even need democracy. It is a alien concept, at odds with the local way of doing things.

Democratically elected and democracy are not the same thing, I feel.
 
How do you feel about your medals?
My Father-out-law left all his in his uniform when demobbed. Didn't like the hero title.
 
I never bothered collecting my NI medal, just seemed a bit daft getting awarded for something I enjoyed doing. It's not like I need to prove to anyone that I served there.

That eblag item is pretty sad, I'm sure he could find other ways of paying his mortgage, work perhaps.

Flogging his gongs is only going to pay a few short term bills
 
Medals...schmedals. :rolleyes:
Consider this.
In Sangin there are blokes living in utter sh!t, not washing for days on end, eating the same menu rat packs day after day, sleeping (?) on the ground, fighting for their lives on a daily basis, where the hardest decision can be something like "Do I return fire and give away my position, or just lie low and hope they haven't seen me?" and the biggest worry is getting killed.
Up at Kabul, there are military "advisors", admin staff, police who "patrol" the airport, interpreters, hairdressers, magicians, flower arrangers and a million and one other cling-ons who drive round in aircon Landcruisers wearing neatly pressed uniform laundered for them by the locals, dining in the US-funded dining hall where the toughest decision is which flavour ice cream goes best with which variety of fruit salad, complaining to the kitchen staff that the Coke machine has only got Diet Coke in it again, and then sloping off to their single-bed en-suite portacabin where the biggest worry is if the internet is back up to broadband speed, on the way in tripping over their body armour which has been half-kicked under their bed since day one, to watch Sky TV or e-mail the wifey

They both get the same gong.

(But I am categorically, absolutely, most definitely not bitter!)
 
I've heard that US troops receive gongs for flying over any areas where there are conflicts, including NI:eek:

Is there any truth in that? that you know of.
 
Bob, In the program the squadies on the ground did look genuinely relieved (slight understatement) to see that chanook arrive to pick-up the wounded. The soldier with a bullet in his arm was faring well as the prospect was he'd get to go home early. I can see what you mean about not wanting to leave anyone behind.
What is the objective of this war, is it to swop leaders to gain peace? Maybe that's a daft question to ask under the circumstances.
 
Alane said:
I've heard that US troops receive gongs for flying over any areas where there are conflicts, including NI:eek:

Is there any truth in that? that you know of.
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Yup. Common place. There's an urban myth doing the rounds about a British tanker captain who took some passengers for a look-see on an Air to Air refuelling sortie, flying from a non-hositle country to refuel genuine combat aircraft over Eye-rack.
As they crossed the border, indistinguishable at 39,000 feet, with Iraq just a plain desert beneath them, he reputedly came on the PA and said:
"For American passengers, congratulations, you've just been awarded the Airborne Operations (Iraq) medal, for our British passengers.......we'll shortly be serving tea and coffee"
 
Cannonball Bob said:
Medals...schmedals. :rolleyes:
Consider this.
In Sangin there are blokes living in utter sh!t, not washing for days on end, eating the same menu rat packs day after day, sleeping (?) on the ground, fighting for their lives on a daily basis, where the hardest decision can be something like "Do I return fire and give away my position, or just lie low and hope they haven't seen me?" and the biggest worry is getting killed.
Up at Kabul, there are military "advisors", admin staff, police who "patrol" the airport, interpreters, hairdressers, magicians, flower arrangers and a million and one other cling-ons who drive round in aircon Landcruisers wearing neatly pressed uniform laundered for them by the locals, dining in the US-funded dining hall where the toughest decision is which flavour ice cream goes best with which variety of fruit salad, complaining to the kitchen staff that the Coke machine has only got Diet Coke in it again, and then sloping off to their single-bed en-suite portacabin where the biggest worry is if the internet is back up to broadband speed, on the way in tripping over their body armour which has been half-kicked under their bed since day one, to watch Sky TV or e-mail the wifey

They both get the same gong.

(But I am categorically, absolutely, most definitely not bitter!)
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That is always something i have bitterly disagreed with .
 
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