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Engine running out of power (200tdi)

aclarke

aclarke

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Hi. In the last week I've had two occasions where my engine has completely run out of power, to the point where it was everything I could do to keep it moving forward even in first gear. Actually the the first time it just ended up stalling.

The weather here is fairly cold right now. Last week when it happened it was about -20C and yesterday it was about -6C. Last week I took the truck into the mechanic to have the tyres rotated, and went through a car wash before getting there as a courtesy to the mechanic. However, my fuel filler cap gasket is worn and I wonder if maybe I got water into my diesel tank, and maybe that froze in the fuel line...?

I was near the mechanic's place last week when the problem happened, but couldn't get it back there in time and had to have it towed. They have never seen one of these vehicles before as they are very very rare here in Canada. I take our Corolla to these guys but usually not the truck for any work. I think they've just realized it's not a Toyota Land Cruiser.

Anyway, the next morning it started up for them, and idled fine but ran out of power again when they took it for a test drive. They checked the fuel filter and it was in very bad shape so they found a match and replaced it. All seemed fine and I've put maybe 150-200km on it since then, but yesterday it happened again.

Could I still maybe just have water in my tank, or is there something else I should be checking?

Thank you very much,
- Andrew.
 
bahamarover said:
I would suggest your deisel could be gelling, you can buy an additive to stop it occuring...........keith
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A comment on fuel gelling, posted from the Bahamas ... nice :)

I guess it's possible and the thought occurred to me. This is my first winter with the vehicle here, but the previous owner had it for about 5 years here before me without troubles. It also hasn't been a particularly cold winter, really. Maybe the injectors are a little clogged too or something. Some fuel additive is going into it today so I'll see if the problem still occurs after that.

- Andrew.
 
well, in a previous life i lived in deepest darkest england and so had some experience with deisel gelling ( i had a deisel car before they became popular) we have a 200tdi and its been a helluva lot more reliable than my 19j engine.......keith
 
Check the fuel filter again, is it poss that there is rust in the tank clogging the filter again.......

I would assume the deisel over there is alrady treated for the cold at this time of year??


Cheers
 
Check the separator / water trap too - it requires draining occasionally, particularly if water can be seen...

Cheers,
 
vzh7gk said:
Check the separator / water trap too - it requires draining occasionally, particularly if water can be seen...

Cheers,
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Hi. I'm reviving this old thread because I was looking for the water trap and couldn't find it. What does it look like? I looked in the right rear wheel well at the fuel lines and traced them forward but didn't see anything like that. I just have a rubber hose that comes out of the tank and joins into a plastic hose which seems to go all the way up to the engine.

I also thought I'd answered this thread before with the source of the problem, but it was water freezing in my injectors. My fuel filter on the bulkhead was full of water and rust, so I replaced that and also used some diesel additive and the problem went away. Since then I've looked for the water separator but haven't been able to find it.

Thanks,
- Andrew.

Thanks,
- Andrew.
 
Not everything has one.

Tess had a sedimentor (fitted on the body, behind a rear wheel-arch, IIRC) because of her African adventure.

Other vehicles have them under the bonnet.

It looks like a fuel-filter housing top with a glass bowl underneath: you can see water or dirt collecting at the bottom of the little bowl.


If you don't have one, is there a little plastic drain plug on the underside of your filter?
 
I have a FRAM T8043 fuel filter which is unlike the little silver fuel filters I'm used to seeing on vehicles like my old Discovery. This one screws onto a fitting bolted to the right side of the bulkhead in the engine compartment. It has a big plastic hand screw / drain plug on the bottom you can unthread and pull down to let diesel drain out of it. I presume this is to dump water or dirt out if it gets caught in there. I just changed that yesterday and it's the only filter I know of on the fuel line.

Thanks,
- Andrew.
 
aclarke said:
Hi. In the last week I've had two occasions where my engine has completely run out of power, to the point where it was everything I could do to keep it moving forward even in first gear. Actually the the first time it just ended up stalling.

The weather here is fairly cold right now. Last week when it happened it was about -20C and yesterday it was about -6C. Last week I took the truck into the mechanic to have the tyres rotated, and went through a car wash before getting there as a courtesy to the mechanic. However, my fuel filler cap gasket is worn and I wonder if maybe I got water into my diesel tank, and maybe that froze in the fuel line...?

I was near the mechanic's place last week when the problem happened, but couldn't get it back there in time and had to have it towed. They have never seen one of these vehicles before as they are very very rare here in Canada. I take our Corolla to these guys but usually not the truck for any work. I think they've just realized it's not a Toyota Land Cruiser.

Anyway, the next morning it started up for them, and idled fine but ran out of power again when they took it for a test drive. They checked the fuel filter and it was in very bad shape so they found a match and replaced it. All seemed fine and I've put maybe 150-200km on it since then, but yesterday it happened again.

Could I still maybe just have water in my tank, or is there something else I should be checking?

Thank you very much,
- Andrew.
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Hi ... I had a similar-ish problem with my Disco TD5 ... hit some deep puddles one day.... the following nite the mercury dropped waaay down low... and bingo ! lost ower in alomost the same way that you described.
Turned out that a a service station I had used the previous week hadn't refitted the front under-arch splash gaurd that protects the air intake to the engine/turbo... lots of water had gotten into the air filter housing, saked the air filter , which turned to mush , and froze solid in the cold snap, almost completely choking the air flow, and just about killing the engine - very little response to putting the foot down on the pedal.
Cleaned out and dried the housing , new filter , cleaned out the airflow meter' mesh filter, refitted my under arch splash guard, and to be on the safe side , I drilled a few small holes in the bottom of the air filter housing to let any future build up drain away , and all went back to normal with the car's power.
I am no mechanic, but hope this helps !
 
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