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First Landrover ...

jtscaff

In Second Gear
Any and all advice will be much appreciated gentlemen ,

I have just bought my first landrover , he's a 2005 90 xs model , before I bought it I had no experience or knowledge about Landys and I have a few questions that my Local landrover dealer assures me are all part of the " experience " 1st thing is changing gear between 1st and 2nd seems pretty "crunchy ", if thats the right word to describe it ,also getting the gearstick into reverse can be a herculean struggle sometimes , the day I had it at the dealers and the mechanic was fiddling with the gearstick sod's law kicked in and he could select reverse no problem ,and he tells me that the crunching is normal .
My other query is ... when I park him up there is a low pitched droning noise coming from underneath the bonnet which gradually decreases in pitch and volume until it dissapears over the space of say 30-45 seconds , I suspect that it may be nothing serious but I'd like to know if its normal before I take it back to the dealers and make an **** of myself ..... thanks in advance ...
 
Reading this forum will answer all your questions - it did for me as a new Landy owner.
Just remember you now have a truck - not a car! There's nothing slick about a Landy.
The droning you hear when you switch off is the centrifugal oil filter slowing down - quite normal. (But don't worry if it sometimes doesn't)
The other noise I was worried about was from the steering damper when turning to the left at slow speeds - quite normal. (Think it's the left - I'm so used to it now!)
Oh, and it will let the rain in somewhere - they all do!
And lots of other little quirks!!!
Enjoy.
 
The gearchange can be notchy around 1/2 or 2/3 but shouldn't go in with a crunch. Going into reverse shouldn't be difficult either. See if you can get the opinion of another owner.
 
when selecting reverse, use the palm of you hand and pull the lever over to wards you....then flick it downwards, this should go in betterand also when coming out of reverse pull it towars you abit...
 
Take it back to the Dealers and ask to drive some other vehicles to compare the gear change. If they are different to yours, ask them why?

I seem to remember there is an MTF oil that is better for the box,one of the Lads will tell us what oil it is :) ( I can't remember :eek: ) Ford have changed their spec for boxes with crunchy gear changes.

As said, the centrifugal filter is slowing down, ask for a new one, it's probably full and wants chnaging.

Chris
 
Aye as said before its just the centrifugal oil filter spinning down, some do it some don't but could be because its full and needs a change.

Gear change, get them to put ATF (Castrol Dextron) into the 'box and it should fix it, it's because it's a thinner oil and the synco isn't under so much pressure. If this doesn't fix it then as it's still under warrenty take it back and get them to put a new gearbox in it. It is a common problem with the R380 in the TD5 but all work should be down my main dealer FOC.

Where abouts are you in the country?
 
Excellent stuff lads , just what I was looking for ... more questions now though !! I've got him booked in to Cheviot 4x4 for his 24000 service and will the problem with the oil filter be taken care of with that service , or is this centrifugal thingy something different ??
I think regarding the gear box I'll just ask Cheviot for thier opinion whilst there servicing him as they seem quite a helpfull bunch , whereas Rossleigh in Newcastle seem very reluctant to even open the bonnet ..

Whilst I'm here can anybody give me there opinion on these Hiclone devices I've seen advertised ..

ps.. cocky lil guy I'm in South Shields
 
Right Cheviot 4x4 good lads, not heard a bad word about them. The centrifugal filter is changed on every service.

Erm...hiclone device, try searching the forum and i think you find the answer is they do naff all. Don't waste money on one. But if you want more performance then you'd be better off getting the 90 chipped.

If Rossleigh aren't wanting to know you, book it in at Lloyd LR in carlisle, i work in the workshop (apprentice mechanic) and we should be able to sort ya gearbox out.
 
Cheviot 4x4 should not do any work or replace any faulty parts that are covered by your warranty. They should refer you to a franchised dealer who will do the work for free.
 
and will the problem with the oil filter be taken care of with that service , or is this centrifugal thingy something different ??

There isn't a problem with the oil centrifuge - they just make that noise sometimes (some of them) It may indicate that it needs replacing but not nesessarily. Brand new ones can make the noise.
Centrifuge gets changed every service, full flow filter (normal oil filter) every other service. That's 12k and 24k mile intervals in the book. Lots of Landy owners (inc. me) like to change oil, centrifuge, check transmission oils and grease round at 6k.
 
Gear change, get them to put ATF (Castrol Dextron) into the 'box and it should fix it, it's because it's a thinner oil and the synco isn't under so much pressure.

My 1992 Tdi is a bit notchy/crunchy going into 2nd as well..
Mine has the LT77 box (or LT77S? - not sure, how do I tell?), so does the same apply to the oil? or is the ATF specifically for the L380 (which Im assuming is the box fited in the 2005?).

It would be nice to get a smooth change...

Thanks

Mike
 
My 1992 Tdi is a bit notchy/crunchy going into 2nd as well..
Mine has the LT77 box (or LT77S? - not sure, how do I tell?), so does the same apply to the oil? or is the ATF specifically for the L380 (which Im assuming is the box fited in the 2005?).

It would be nice to get a smooth change...

Thanks

Mike

Lt77 needs ATF, I would also ecommend a slight nano-second pause in neutral just before sliding into second. Allows the cogs thinking time:D
 
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