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Ford engines and transmissions on 2007 Defenders?

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rrojas

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Greetings gentlemen:

Got word from a friend that new defenders will be built with Ford diesel engines and transmission systems to replace the Land Rover transmission and the Td5 engines:eek:

Can anybody confirm the above?

Tnx,

RR
 
Hmmm does that mean the new 6.4L Power Stroke diesel engine?? Mmmm. :D

Here Ford diesels are from International. International makes the 2.8 diesel in Brazil and it is fitted to Ford Ranger pickups in some regions*. It would make sense to put that in Defenders. As for trannys who knows? BW? Mazda? what would they change it to?
I don't think the sky is falling just yet... They aren't talking about the Defender rebadged as the Ford Bronco yet are they? Man that would be ironic...


* http://www.landyonline.co.za/workshop/international28lhs.html
 
Live in the now!! is all I say!;) ;)

I have also heard a rumour that man has been able to turn the black liquid from the ground into the fuel for a leisure pursuit off-road at the weekends!

Forsuth! is this true fellow forumers??
 
The blurb land Rover has leaked to the press emphasises the strong points of the new engine and transmission, but in reality I don't think they are looking for any improvement, just a cost saving. I don't believe I could drive a Land Rover knowing it had a Ford engine. The current Defender is the last link with the old Rover Company, and its 130 year history will come to an end. Yes, they sky IS falling in.

Ten.
 
Basically if LR make a balls of this with their transit engine and six speed box people will turn to the cottage industry of rebuilt Landies which would flourish under the circumstances.
 
ten said:
The blurb land Rover has leaked to the press emphasises the strong points of the new engine and transmission, but in reality I don't think they are looking for any improvement, just a cost saving. I don't believe I could drive a Land Rover knowing it had a Ford engine. The current Defender is the last link with the old Rover Company, and its 130 year history will come to an end. Yes, they sky IS falling in.

Ten.
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How is that any different than driving one with a Buick engine? Or how about the freeloader with the Volvo engine? Anyway this was bound to happen sooner or later. I mean it isn't as though Ford DOESN'T own Land Rover...
 
The current Defender is the last link with the old Rover Company, and its 130 year history will come to an end.
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They pretty much have been stressing that fact for a while now, at least over here:
STATEMENT: LAND ROVER IS NOT CONNECTED TO MG ROVER GROUP INSOLVENCY​




BRAMALEA, ON, April 19, 2005 – In view of some recent media and misunderstandings, Land Rover would like to make it clear that it is an entirely separate company from MG Rover.

With the appointment of administrators at MG Rover in the UK, Land Rover wishes it to be made clear that there is no connection between the two companies.

Ford Motor Company acquired Land Rover from BMW in 2000. After the recent successful launch of the Land Rover LR3, as well the continued success of Freelander, Land Rover is looking forward to the launch of two new vehicles, the Range Rover for 2006 and the all-new Range Rover Sport due in retailers in June 2005.
Land Rover North America is part of Aston Martin Jaguar Land Rover with headquarters in Irvine, California. Land Rover established operations in the U.S. in 1986, and now imports and distributes Range Rover, LR3 and Freelander vehicles manufactured by Land Rover in Solihull, England. Land Rover's worldwide operations are wholly owned by Ford Motor Company, Dearborn, Michigan. For information about the Land Rover retailer nearest you, call 800-FIND-4WD or log on to www.LandRoverusa.com.
For the latest Land Rover pricing and product information, contact Land Rover North America Corporate Communications at (949) 341-5800. Land Rover-related press releases and electronic photos of the company's products are available on-line in the Land Rover section of Ford Motor Company's news media website (media.landrover.com).
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People have driven round with Ford V6, 2.5 DTis, Yorks, and everyone is crowing about the new RR V8 Diesel, a Ford I believe. The 2.7 in V6 D3 and RRsport is a Peugeot/Citroen Design given a Ford designation.

I have absolutely no quarms about driving a Land Rover with any engine I like.

I know I will upset the Series Lads, but the Last engine I would have is a 2 1/4 Land Rover Petrol or Diesel, but it's all down to personal choice. They love them, I don't, simple as that. I will continue to repair them and help others with them to keep them on the road, but will never have one in my vehicles. The technology is too dated now. After years of working on so many different types of engine, there are better ones out there. The challenge is fitting them.

We have to move with the times.

Chris
 
I must say, for all the dura-torque's early faults :rolleyes: from 54/05 plated onwards, they have been remarkably trouble free.
Just the occasional dual mass flywheel failure, but even they are getting less frequent nowadays.

Older models are still pigs though :p
 
I don't think having different axles is such a bad thing either. Didn't LR quit using Salisbury axles? perhaps they'll use a Ford based HD axle. Even a Ford 8.8 would be an upgrade over a 2 pin spiral type Rover diff.

Sooner or later though the defender as we have known is will die. It is only a matter of time. How many other vehicle designs with direct lineage to the 1950s still exist? Solid Axles are rapidly becoming a thing of the past... Bill Ford apparently doesn't care about the utility/military market, and there are more profits to be had the farther upmarket you push the line.

I'm actually astonished the Defender is still being made- regardless of who's engine and tranny is in it.
 
Dont know why ford didnt do it sooner.
I drive transit vans at work and they are very good. I got almost 40 mpg out of one on a trip to the north east. (2005 model) Comfortable aswell.
Didnt they us the Jag V8 in the new RR?
 
MPi-KMS-72 said:
I don't think having different axles is such a bad thing either. Didn't LR quit using Salisbury axles? perhaps they'll use a Ford based HD axle. Even a Ford 8.8 would be an upgrade over a 2 pin spiral type Rover diff.

Sooner or later though the defender as we have known is will die. It is only a matter of time. How many other vehicle designs with direct lineage to the 1950s still exist? Solid Axles are rapidly becoming a thing of the past... Bill Ford apparently doesn't care about the utility/military market, and there are more profits to be had the farther upmarket you push the line.

I'm actually astonished the Defender is still being made- regardless of who's engine and tranny is in it.
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Trouble is whatever you think of them around the world at this moment there are thousands of working Land Rovers from 1948 to date,working hard,reliably doing all manner of tasks.These tasks are done by necessity not to impress or merely look good.I have an old 1963 IIa swb that is used daily around the yard as a shunter and for collecting firewood during the cold months.I have no intention of ever replacing it,just keep it going.They just do a job,and if Land Rover stop making them,someone else will start or fill the gap.
This is why I have little time for all the performance bits and flash cr-p - they are a tool no more no less.
The flash bits go on Freelanders.
 
I was talking to a fitter at work the other day who has driven the new Transits, very good he reckons, and interestingly he was under the impression that the engine produces emissions levels which mean cheaper tax! If that is true it would be a real laugh telling that to the tree hugger brigade!
Obviously all second hand info so I can't verify any of it.
 
I thought they went to 4 pin p38 type diffs in the later Defenders rather than Salisbury axles? I don't know for sure as we haven't had a new Defender in the States since '97.

I don't have anything much against Defenders and nothing against Series trucks- I prefer them and love them dearly. However I know full well that I'm not your average person in that respect. Most people find the things too basic, too crude, and to primitive, noisey, etc. Actually those are all reasons WHY I like them.

Anyway their days are numbered- we are destined to lose this living classic sooner or later. Land Rover North America doesn't give a rats a$$ about LR enthusiasts and heritage. They are all about the pampered buttocks and AC and $$$$$$$$. We are a market share they'd rather forget.
 
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