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mickey mouse 4x4

freebe

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why is the freelander called a mickey mouse 4x4 it seems to go the same places all the other 4x4s i have had sins i put a 60 mm lift kit on and its not that bad off road had a lot worse
 
Dooberydogs & Freelander54s, Freelanders are no mickeymouse motors. We went greenlaning last year they didn't have any problems & got places my disco didn't.

But that's another story
 
So that makes them bad off road?

Not at all. Why would looking like a hairdressers car make it bad off road?

If I painted my series bright pink, fitted fluffy seat covers and added lots of chrome it would look like a hairdressers car. It wouldn't compromise its off road performance.

Although I've never driven one, from what I've heard and read, the Freelander is an accomplished off road vehicle.

Doesn't stop it looking like a hairdressers car though.
 
My point exactly, the original post was referring to the off road ability of the Freelander.

ok, I thought the post was referring to the fact that the FreeLander was called a Mickey Mouse 4x4 despite being a capable offroader. my bad.

and no offence intended to hairdressers. They are useful. I visit one at least once a month and he's a very nice boy. he doesn't drive a freelander. yet.
 
Its the cry of the hidebound old diehards who criticize every new model landrover bring out as..."Its not a Land rover".
I am glad the freelander came out and stopped them whingeing on about Discoveries not being "Proper land rovers" .
Or, the even more hidebound crying "if it ain't on cart springs"...[Timbot:D ].. "It ain't a land rover"...If its longer than 80" it ain't a Land Rover, if it steers from one side etc etc:D ...
Let them whinge on for a bit, then, when their affections are directed to a new model, you can relish in the knowledge that your "Land Rover" is now a "Proper Land Rover";)
Cya
Mungo:)
 
I decided that when the Rangie finally dies, I'd get a Freelander, had seen one offroading and was MOST impressed, liked them loads... then someone here asked me to help him get a replacement IRD, and I found out about the weird wheel-speed thing, and the novel use of viscous couplings etc... WHY did Land Rover do that?? Terrified of ever having to buy one now, looking at Discos as a replacement now! :eek: Anyone know of a justification?
 
Hi DaphnesDad, can you explain the term IRD, and weird wheel speed thing to someone who knows naff all about freelanders and was thinking about buying one for her indoors to ride about in? Oh and well I'm at it she's seen one with the 2 ltr diesel engine (not the td4) are they any cop or is it another crap engine to give a miss?

Many thanks Bob:)
 
Hi Bob; I can tell you almost anything you want to know about Range Rovers (except the thing's I've asked for help on here...), but absolutely B***** all about Freebies; but what I do know, and I stand to be corrected, is that for some odd reason Land Rover decided that to make them handle like cars (what, and not like shopping trolleys then? :rolleyes: ), the front & rear wheels had to rotate at slightly different speeds... so they used something called the Intermediate Reduction Drive, and a viscous coupling, to sort it out. Well any numpty could have told them there would be problems...
Anyway, I THINK I know much more, but wouldn't like to say for sure on here. Best to check with the Freelander boys & girls, and HERE, Ashcroft Transmission's website, who know ALLl about it and can sell you all the shiny news bits when they go wrong :)

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/contact.html

also try Freelander Club website:

http://www.freelanderclub.co.uk/buying.htm

Best of luck.
 
Hi Bob; I can tell you almost anything you want to know about Range Rovers (except the thing's I've asked for help on here...), but absolutely B***** all about Freebies; but what I do know, and I stand to be corrected, is that for some odd reason Land Rover decided that to make them handle like cars (what, and not like shopping trolleys then? :rolleyes: ), the front & rear wheels had to rotate at slightly different speeds... so they used something called the Intermediate Reduction Drive, and a viscous coupling, to sort it out. Well any numpty could have told them there would be problems...
Anyway, I THINK I know much more, but wouldn't like to say for sure on here. Best to check with the Freelander boys & girls, and HERE, Ashcroft Transmission's website, who know ALLl about it and can sell you all the shiny news bits when they go wrong :)

http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/contact.html

also try Freelander Club website:

http://www.freelanderclub.co.uk/buying.htm

Best of luck.

In fairness the prices of reconditioned IRds and the costs of VCs has fallen dramatically. My Hippo does 25k a year, has over 50k on the clock, spent 2 weeks around Morocco including half across the southern part (Sahara) and is still going strong. I expect to replace the IRD at sometime after it has gone round the clock and regularly check the VC (the death of which can ruin the IRD). If you get a goodun, then its good like all cars.
 
hey mate

The desiels are generally decent engines and you shouldnt have much of a problem


Regarding the drive train...it a very clever set up which removes the freelanders need to have a locking center diff - hense the VCU which locks up when the wheels slip effectivly giving it 50/50 4 wheel drive and with the TC sending the power to where it is needed


If it were my money (which is was a few months ago) i would go for the TD4 (which i did) because of its slightly better refinement, but tbh there is not much between the TD engines.

Some say avoid the 1.8 petrol - i had one and never had a problem with it, but others have had many problems. Put in to context though, how many people have had problems, and how many freelanders have sold - there are many happy owners out there without a problem yet you dont hear them because the car just well runs like clockwork

They are good cars and good 4x4s - ive used mine off road loads (wonder if i can get a reduction in my road tax - car spends half the time off road!) and it does the commute between home and uni without a problem (3 hour slog). They do more mpg than the other land rovers, and are easier to use in towns. Then again when the going does get extreme...thats when you want a 'hardcore' defender or disco to get you through
 
Its the cry of the hidebound old diehards who criticize every new model landrover bring out as..."Its not a Land rover".
I am glad the freelander came out and stopped them whingeing on about Discoveries not being "Proper land rovers" .
Or, the even more hidebound crying "if it ain't on cart springs"...[Timbot:D ].. "It ain't a land rover"...If its longer than 80" it ain't a Land Rover, if it steers from one side etc etc:D ...
Let them whinge on for a bit, then, when their affections are directed to a new model, you can relish in the knowledge that your "Land Rover" is now a "Proper Land Rover";)
Cya
Mungo:)


And that was written before I offered to rescue you:D Wont post the vid on here then Mick:)
 

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In the attached pictures, a disco fell over going over an itsy bitsy little hump and promptly fell over. It then had to be pulled out by a nice man with a V8.

Now, ahem, my freeby - the hairdressers car - went over that hump without any problems or the need for recovery. Now the back of a Disco would be able to hold one of those stand up hairdriers :)
 

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