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Starter motor conextion?

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SCHREIBER

Big Landy Fan
Just got my starter motor today, on the sloenoid there is a spade conextion under neath the two main teminals. I was just woundering what it is for? I am fitting this starter motor from a 90 2.25 onto a series 2a 2.25.

Sorry about the crap pics

Many thanks

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The battery positive cable and the thick brown cables from the alternator and to the dash/fuse box conect to the stud terminal. The white wire with red stripe from the ignition switch connects to the spade terminal - its the solenoid energiser circuits from the ign switch start position.
 
If you ever get a solenoid with another small terminal ( 2 small ones). The lower sitting one near the large nut is for a Ballast resistor feed.

Chris
 
The battery positive cable and the thick brown cables from the alternator and to the dash/fuse box conect to the stud terminal. The white wire with red stripe from the ignition switch connects to the spade terminal - its the solenoid energiser circuits from the ign switch start position.
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Had a look at the ignition switch today, and there is no white and red
wire :(

Instead there is black wires and a green one?

I took the wires off the ignition switch (making carefull note of where to put them back) and found that there is letters next to the spade terminals, these are, 'A', 'H', 'ING'
and 'S&T'. The book of words with the diagram in it says that the red and white wire should be connected to terminal '3' of the ignition switch. The truck has a starter button wich is connected from the battery to the larger terminal on the starter solenoid.

So basicaly the question is which terminal on the ignition switch is '3'?

Tahnks for your help

SCHHREIBER
 
I don't know, but there will be a control wire to the original solenoid mounted on the air filter mounting, next to the battery tray. That wire is the one you need.
 
don't know, but there will be a control wire to the original solenoid mounted on the air filter mounting, next to the battery tray. That wire is the one you need.
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Just spoke to my dad and he says that my truck being a 1965 series 2a does not have a soleniod.:confused:

So what terminal would you put your money on it being?

A H S&T or ING?

Thanks


SCHREIBER
 
SCHREIBER said:
Just spoke to my dad and he says that my truck being a 1965 series 2a does not have a soleniod.:confused:
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It does, it's in your hand in the pictures. You have a pre engaged starter, surely it should be an inertia type, for that age? (Snagger??)

Look at the ring gear teeth and see if they are straight or have a lead on them. I should have the lead on the back face.

Chris
 
You should, as Chris said, have a inertia starter with a separat solenoid mounted near the battery tray. The new motor is the modern pre-engaged type with integral solenoid.

Your vehicle definately has a solenoid somewhere - the ign switch and wiring harness would melt in seconds if you connected it directly to the starter.
 
Thanks for your help so far!
Just had a look at my truck, defenatly no solenoid in the air filter mounting.
The wireing diagram i have got shows there to be no solenoid on my truck, being a early type 2a? Is this right? if it does have a solenoid where would it be?

Also, what do the letters 'a' 'h' 's&t' and 'ing' on the back of the ignition switch mean? And witch one would go to the staerter solenoid?

Thanks for your help,:)
Sorry for all the questions

SCHREIBER
 
There is no solenoid in theold series trucks- they simply have a heavy duty button that completes the circuit from battery to the starter. Like on othe rold vehicles, ww2 jeeps etc. The Button is on the firewall/bulkhead near the choke unlike other old cars where it was typically on the floor.
 
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Also, what do the letters 'a' 'h' 's&t' and 'ing' on the back of the ignition switch mean? And witch one would go to the starter solenoid?



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None! the switch simply turns on the ignition circuit- it has nothing to do with the starter- that is a separate system on a IIa.

I'd simply fit a solenoid from another vehicle and bypass the push button starter switch- then put in a smaller push button switch to activate the solenoid and crank the engine.

With this vehicle you'd typically turn the ignition switch (key) to the run position- fully clockwise. That turns on the points, coil etc. Then you push the separate starter button to crank the engine over and get it running. This system seems very foreign to most people today and has thwarted attempts to make off with my IIa in the past! :D everyone expectrs it to crank withthe ignition key! When it doesn't they assume it is shot...
 
I thought it was a SIII. Well, you should be able to route the wiring from the push start to the solenoid terminal. You only need 8A cable, but I'd use 17A to err on the safe side.
 
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