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How Do I? Starter

cadfael

cadfael

Trekker
Has anyone any experience of changing a starter motor, mine has just gone dead after some nasty grinding noises?
It's a 200tdi, Haynes says do it from the top, but thats quite a long way down!
Thanks,
Mike.
 
I had to change mine outside my Moscow hotel. -20 at the time. laying on the ice, but it wasn't too bad. It was on my series 2a though.
 
the 200tdi's starter is a nightmare to get to. I had to take the down pipe off to even see it. I never got it off. You might need a mirror to find some of the bolts though. Good luck with it...:)
 
ken110 said:
the 200tdi's starter is a nightmare to get to. I had to take the down pipe off to even see it. I never got it off. You might need a mirror to find some of the bolts though. Good luck with it...:)
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:eek:Gee thanks Ken! I had a nasty feeling that might be the case!
Oh well, at least it's a nice day for it!:)
Mike.
 
You DON'T ned to remove the downpipe, its a fiddle, but it'll come out without. I've removed two starters off 200's and never taken the downpipe off. There is 3 bolts as far as I remember, or 2 bolts and a stud with a nut. 2 on the bottow, one on the top, engine side I think. Take these off and you should slide the starter out. There is a cable tie holding a wire on which goes round the starter and round somewhere else, you'll need to cut that off (assuming the starter hasn't been removed before). It catches alot of people out, myself included (not twice though;)) as you can't pull the starter out without cutting it off! Don't bother putting it back on, its not needed. Its a landrover trick to make the job more difficult. I think the designers used to take bets on who could put the most akward things in the most akward places:rolleyes:
After you slide the starter off, theres just enough room to get it facing up. If you've got a mate to help you, that would be better. Grab the starter from the top and you need to twist it and turn it round past the downpipe and various other obsticles, but its possible.

Cheers, Ben
 
tbh I had the same problems as ken110, I actually gave up and took it to a local garage for them to sweat over.

perhaps ive just got fat fingers and no patience tho..

good luck - been there ;-(
 
Ben Breese said:
You DON'T ned to remove the downpipe, its a fiddle, but it'll come out without. I've removed two starters off 200's and never taken the downpipe off. There is 3 bolts as far as I remember, or 2 bolts and a stud with a nut. 2 on the bottow, one on the top, engine side I think. Take these off and you should slide the starter out. There is a cable tie holding a wire on which goes round the starter and round somewhere else, you'll need to cut that off (assuming the starter hasn't been removed before). It catches alot of people out, myself included (not twice though;)) as you can't pull the starter out without cutting it off! Don't bother putting it back on, its not needed. Its a landrover trick to make the job more difficult. I think the designers used to take bets on who could put the most akward things in the most akward places:rolleyes:
After you slide the starter off, theres just enough room to get it facing up. If you've got a mate to help you, that would be better. Grab the starter from the top and you need to twist it and turn it round past the downpipe and various other obsticles, but its possible.

Cheers, Ben
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Thanks Ben, it really was a sod to get off,but I'm a lot more thrawn (stubborn/awkward) than those fool designers! There was a bracket on the wrong way round, sheilding the last nut, took me 2 hrs with a half round file to get the clutch hydraulics out of the way. Soon fabricate a new one, but with a slot instead of a hole straight through! No cables cut so it'll all go back just as it came off...only a damn sight easier!:-)
 
I couldn't get mine from under the mine manifold, hands were too big for the stupid little gap.....getting the down pipe out of the way seemd to make things easier.
 
Well, I finally got it all done, but managed to put a wire in the wrong place--nearly fried things:eek: and had to give up! Called a mobile car electrician, who sorted things out fairly pronto, other prob was the ignition switch which was always dodgy, so bypassed that with a neat little starter button! Cost? A very modest £35-not bad for 1 1/2 hours work,reccommend him to anyone!:D
Thanks to all who wrote in:)
Mike.
 
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