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Theft video

robwlondon

robwlondon

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This video is posted on the Daily Mail site. The article is a bit irrelevent, but what interests me is ow the theft is done in the video. This is not key-less entry, the guy forces his way in without setting the alarm off and once inside is able to disable the alarm and start the car. He never opens the driver's door, just the window. I'm sure there's more to this, perhaps he is using a key blocker to confuse the alarm?
What do people think is going on?
 
Surely it has a manufacturer immobiliser that is ridiculously easy .these scumbags know the ins n outs of cars security otherwise they wouldn’t attempt this ..makes you wonder sometimes are these thefts an inside job ,just bung the engineers and get info on the system ..if somebody offered you 5k for info no questions asked ..🙄 no comebacks .
 
My guess is that it was single locked, the interior sensors would not be enabled.
Older LR's default to double locking with interior sensors enabled, for some reason, probably to do with corporate (rather than owners) risk, later models defaulted to single locking with interior sensors off. This can be changed in the CCF but it was never a delivery settings option.
 
That makes sense, so would they have checked to see if it was alarmed before going for the break in? Default to single lock seems madness. Even my 1990 Merc defaulted to alarm and sensors. (Which I found out when I locked myself in and went to sleep - moved in the night and set the alarm off and lost all ability to think :lol: )
 
I think they'd either be watching and waiting for the unique 'double locked' signal or relying upon the owners laziness / lack of knowledge and taking a chance - which is most likely as the transport was waiting until after the point the alarm would've triggered.

It really is corporate over-abundance of risk adversity, for the same reason across certain model year ranges, you have to agree to the navigation indemnity every.single.time.
Other brands of the same era tell you once, after that, 'well, we did warn you...'
 
Was talking to a local car salesman recently they have had an evoque in the showroom for months and can't sell it. Anyone interested finds they can't afford to insure it. Apparently there's a fault whereby you can gain access to the wiring loom in the rear door and use it to disable the alarm, open the doors and even start the engine. All without any specialist equipment. 😅
 
IIRC that's L494 Sport, not Evoque. It's not just a case of twisting a couple of wires together, they do need to connect in to the body CAN to gain electrical access to the gateway module and then send some relevant 'emergency access' commands (as if the car was being recovered from loss of both keys), so it's a non-trivial process but I suppose if you're doing it every day....

I learned long ago that if a car salesman said it was raining, look out of the window to check....
 
I saw a comment from the Police recently, they said that in the past stealing a car was quite a physical and noisy process that took time and there was a chance of discovering the theft in progress. Now 90% of the theft takes place in a bedroom or shed with a laptop and by the time they get to the car they have very little to do so there's a very narrow window to catching a theft in progress.
If you take a physical device then upgrade it, it could take months to defeat while criminals try way to get around it. With a software security system they go on line or write code and spend that time in secret, only going out to steal once they have a proven hack.
 
mikeau said:
People buy cars with keyless entry to make it easier for them to get into the car. Why doesnt it occur to them that it also makes it easier for the scrotes to get in... :rolleyes:
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People buy cars with 'keyless' entry because some focus groups agreed with a designer that it'd be a nice thing to have.
I deal with problems with 'peripheral systems' on vehicles on a weekly basis - things like lane assist, forward alert, blind spot assist, high beam assist, autostop etc. etc. Without exception, they all p**s and moan that it doesn't work (95% of the time it does, within the limitations of the system) but not one of them chose the car because it had those driving aids.
 
Paul d said:
Surely it has a manufacturer immobiliser that is ridiculously easy .these scumbags know the ins n outs of cars security otherwise they wouldn’t attempt this ..makes you wonder sometimes are these thefts an inside job ,just bung the engineers and get info on the system ..if somebody offered you 5k for info no questions asked ..🙄 no comebacks .
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Sister in law had their new M5 nicked a few years ago. Several BM's in the area went missing. Turned out a dealership mechanic was cloning or ordering key replacements and selling them to the scroats. He got nicked eventually.
A couple of years later they woke up one morning to find their new BMW sitting on bricks with all its wheels missing.
Live in an exclusive cul-d-sac just outside London with a huge great garage (full of stuff they never use) and leave their cars outside on the drive. Just spent £140k on a new car and awaiting delivery. Don't know what yet - probably another Porsche. Very much into their status symbols. More money than sense.
 
I read an article in the Times last week reporting the trial of an organised gang of car thieves and their 'fence' who specialised in range rovers,
Apparently they were using a key/device bought from ebay and the bounty they got from the vehicle breaker who commisioned them to steal the cars was just £100 each.
 
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