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Catastrophic engine failure?!

Pterinos

Pterinos

In Fourth Gear
Has anyone heard of anything like this, I've searched the forum but ther doesn't seem to be any specific trend amongst the Disco4 family.


I have a disco 4 XS that is literally just had its 4th birthday (warrantee ran out on the 28th October), it's done 45k miles and has a full landrover service history. It is due a service about one, the little reminder came on a week or two ago.


I went to drop my son off to school and I heard a slight noise that I couldn't figure if it was my imagination or not. Once it got a little louder I realised the noise (knocking) was inline with engine revs so I stopped and had a listen. It was not that bad, just loud enough now to make me realises I wasn't just making it up. Elected to drive off the main drag to go on a parallel road where I could stop for a short while and check the oil with the new non dip stick version.


Never got there, noise became massive for about 3 secs and the engine seized - to be verified!


Any thoughts experiences would be gratefully received - I know this is going to be expensive!
 
They were fine. The oil was at 3/4 plus and no visible signs of damage, no leaks, no smells
; just noise that went from hello to endex in about 2 miles of 40mph driving. The oil filler cap looked normal, no emulsification, no metallic fragments or filings. The RAC man was equally confused but agreed with my diagnosis of a seized (or locked) engine.

Oh and no warning lights or other tell tail signs - gutted and slightly concerned with the warrantee running out just two weeks ago!
 
if you google failures of the 2.7 tdv6 you will find many examples of them going bang. bearings fail and rods then seize to the crank and usually go through the block. the noise before it went would have been a big end shell failing. yes, the repair bill will probably mean a new engine and landrover will want 10k plus for this. however, a full service history shows loyalty for which they will offer 25% towards it. stand your ground and insist on them footing the whole bill.
 
Apols, in my haste to reply I forgot it was my D3 that had a tdv6. As mine is a D4 it has an sdv6 that I thought were less prone to these problems.

Thanks for for the advice, I will be jumping up and down as the car is only 14months old to me and bought from landrover.
 
well yes they are meant to be less prone, but still prone. its still the same engine really, just slightly bigger.
 
It is. As negotiations are still underway it would be inappropriate for me to comment further at this stage; however, I must say they have been very helpful to this point.
 
Well, what can I say? Land rover central and the dealer I use have been exceptional. My issue has been resolved and the only cost to me was my choice change my car. To demonstrate my continued advocacy of the brand I've got another Discovery 4 - very happy!
 
That's a good result, LR on a damage limitation exercise, says a lot using a LR dealer when the chips are down like this.

Must be something that's inherent with the crank, be good to know what the oil sample came back, from the lab, but you'd never see the result. I'd heard that the Jag / LR 5.0l V8 cranks when they heat treated them not all had the correct soak time, so became soft or too hard. But these literally snapped under load.
 
Hi,

I realise this is an old post, however..
6 weeks i purchased a 2011 discovery 4 HSE with 58k on the clock, full service and MOT for just under £24,000. I then added a new towbar, electrics and boot protector etc.

I've had the car for 6 weeks and yesterday the crankshaft failed! It was towed to a local landrover specialist who says the repair bill will be £12,000+VAT. Fortunately (i think) i have recourse under consumer rights because i've only just purchased the car, and the dealer is seemingly prepared to exchange it.

But i have found posts stating that landrover have known about this problem with the bearings, and have issued a service advisory? Given this is a known problem, is there a central place to log complaints/take action?
 
bungle100 said:
Hi,

I realise this is an old post, however..
6 weeks i purchased a 2011 discovery 4 HSE with 58k on the clock, full service and MOT for just under £24,000. I then added a new towbar, electrics and boot protector etc.

I've had the car for 6 weeks and yesterday the crankshaft failed! It was towed to a local landrover specialist who says the repair bill will be £12,000+VAT. Fortunately (i think) i have recourse under consumer rights because i've only just purchased the car, and the dealer is seemingly prepared to exchange it.

But i have found posts stating that landrover have known about this problem with the bearings, and have issued a service advisory? Given this is a known problem, is there a central place to log complaints/take action?
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Sorry to here of your quandary,such a bad thing to happen to a relatively 'young' car.
Have a look Here it's well documented.
 
I'm going to resurrect this thread again.

2011, disco 4 HSE.

42k on the clock. Services and MOT and less than a year out of warranty.

Total engine failure.

The car is in at LR dealers, Stratstone and they've given reports to Land Rover who I've been dealing with for over 4 weeks back and forth now. They finally came back with an offer yesterday of 40% of the repair cost, which would still put my repair cost at over £14k. Spoken to various Land Rover dealers and they think 40% is too low - but LR seem unwilling to budge.

Does anyone have any other experience they can help me with this? Does the LR retailer I bought it from have a duty to take care of us. It seems like a known issue, or they are saying that the expect lifetime of their engines are only 75k?
Seeking any legal or other advice.

This is my 4th LR and I've had 5 Jags. Always loved them but I can't see buying another if they don't take care of me a little more.
 
We had just had the same issue!! 30k mileage 3 years old, happened on the motorway with a 3 year old! This is absolutely unbelievable. If we bought Fiat Panda I might expect something like this to happen after a while, but LR? We are totally in shock. As we got it as a family car, I do not even want to imagine what could have happen if it broke right on a motorway with all the children on board. Same situation, no light or any other signs/alarms, just the noise that escalated to the point we had to stop. Engine gone. I am very grateful for this forum as I can understand that it has been a common problem and there are grounds to chase your rights as a customer. We will contact LR customer service directly today and see how do we move from there.
 
Well, these two new members have gone silent. l hope they got their Land Rovers repaired without having to pay a huge repair bill.
 
There's a very salutory lesson on Landyzone at the moment. Broken crank, owner takes vehicle to dealer (independent), LR agree to pay 25%, dealer thinks they can do better and sends the vehicle to a repair garage for an engine rebuild. The repair garage is a scam and the vehicle is lost. its all in the hands of solicitors and the Police, but it a lesson in how badly things can go wrong.
 
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